June 2005


Yesterday I promised to post on the matter of giving offense vs. taking offense, something that was stirred or spurred by some condemnatory remarks to a good-natured joke aimed at Calvinists. The joke appeared on Kacy’s Semper Reformanda blog; you can read there (”10 Reasons Why I Am a Calvinist“) and be sure to read the caustic comments, too. (HT to David at Jollyblogger.)

But I did not post the second part of my response; this is to explain why. Not that any of you were likely greatly disappointed by my failure – or that anyone even notice – but for the purging of my own soul, I guess.

Here’s the problem. A week ago today I did something I have not done in a long time: I joined a men’s Bible study at church. I did it because a friend, who is leading the overall study, asked me to come. So I did, joining a small group in which I already had one friend and had heard very good things about the group facilitator. I was not disappointed: the group consists of seven or eight good, committed men who are eager to explore the subject matter, Rom 6-8. The men range in age from around 21 to near 60 (my old, grey-haired friend).

I have had a low profile since returning to this church after an absence of almost five years, so I don’t think anyone other than my friend had any idea who I am, where I came from, or what my background might be. Which is fine: I don’t think I need a press agent to prepare – or warn – others of my approach. I do, however, tend to speak up when I have an opinion and I do tend to offer a “dissenting” view of things. (Every church needs someone to fulfill this prophetic role, i.e., someone to cry out “Right!” if everyone is going Left, or “Left!” if everyone is going Right. Balance is a verb, not a noun, in my book.)

So everything went very well for the first 30-45 minutes. Good comments and observations were made that reflected careful study and serious interest. As I said before, these are good men.

But then a comment was made that surprised me but shouldn’t have. Someone started talking about our identity in Christ and our view of ourselves, saying that this is important for our sanctification. It surprised me because I am naive – which is embarrassing at any age, but especially mine; it shouldn’t have suprised me because our former pastor had spent years and years going through the Book of Romans and distorting it to support a couple of books he wrote.

In the books – Revolution Within and Releasing the Rivers Within – Dwight Edwards had ignored the forensic nature of Romans, misappropriated much of the New Covenant, and borrowed freely some phrases and ideas from a book by David Needham (Birthright: Christian Do You Know Who You Are?). The major premise of Edwards’ books is that the Christian is already in full possession of all the promises made in Romans and elsewhere and that the only thing that remains is to “release” the reality. We have, according to him, a new heart, a new purity, a new nature, a new everything-that-has-been-said. This is fine and biblical, but it stops being biblical when Edwards contends that we have all of it now in our possession.

In short, as I told him one time, Edwards believes that at the moment of salvation every Christian becomes fully mature and in full possession of all the promises; the believer is a fully grown adult. In contrast, I argued (with the support of Cranfield, Moo, and 2,000 years of orthodoxy), that we are born spiritual infants and grow into maturity and possession over time. We are becoming practically what God has declared us to be positionally, i.e., in His eyes. But we never have all of it in this lifetime, except forensically.

Or, to put it another way, I maintain that believers have been declared righteous while he teaches that we have been made righteous. Sorry, but God’s righteousness is His righteousness: it never becomes ours. We are righteous only because we are in Christ; all of Christian life exists in union with our Savior. There is nothing that is outside our union with Him.

Returning to last week, the comment came up reflecting Edwards false teaching. I began to argue against it but, sensing that I was attacking a sacred cow, I pulled back and reconsidered. And, to repeat myself, here’s the problem.

I have never walked away from a spiritual fight in my church. I don’t feel compelled to confront or correct error when I encounter it in other Christians (unless asked), but the purity of the local church of which I am a member has always been worth fighting for. But this time I didn’t. In an email to a good friend, I explained why:

If the sheep want to lap up that stuff, it’s not my place to try to stop them: they’re not my sheep, after all, and I’m not their shepherd. I’ve spent far too long running around as a self-appointed shepherd/prophet trying to protect people that didn’t want me to protect them, so I’m just going to let it go. I’ll do my own study on Romans (I was doing that anyway) and if anyone in the group wants to know something, I’ll offer what I think. But I’ll steer clear of the new covenant foolishness, since Dwight’s position is still the official party line on sanctification (in the eyes of the pew dwellers – and some of the elders).

(I should add that the new pastor – a good friend and a good man – does not agree with Edwards either and opposed it from the start. He’s got a bit of a mess to clean up.)

I have learned the lesson of backing off the hard way. For far too long I have tried to fight battles without sufficient or adequate authority to do so, exhausting myself in the process and accomplishing little other than to stir up a lot of dust. I was in charge of men’s ministry at one church but, because the senior pastor was not fully behind it (he was a Momma’s boy), little came of it. Finally, when I left the church, they hired an associate pastor to oversee it and it has gone well and done good – much better than it ever did when I was leading it. I don’t attribute that just to him being in a staff position: he has abilities and gifts that I do not.

There is something about having a union card – being ordained – that automatically grants a person authority and credibility, warranted or not. Despite the fact that I have a couple of seminary degrees, it doesn’t count for much without the “anointing” of the church. In fact, it makes one suspect in the eyes of many.

Of course, it doesn’t help that the former pastor disparaged seminary whenever the opportunity arose. This was likely because he wasn’t able to bear the scrutiny and rigor of seminary himself, but he left in his wake an anti-intellectual climate that discourages academic pursuits. This is quite ironic: this church exists primarily to reach the students at Texas A&M and its elder board has historically consisted of tenured professors or professional men with graduate degrees.

But I digress. The point of all of this is why I did not post as promised. It was because of all of the above, but especially my inward exploration to discover why I walked away from a fight. And then told someone else (the overseeing pastor) to fight it. This pastor is a good man but already overwhelmed by his work load. Besides that, I don’t know if he understands all the problems with the previous teaching or not.

Am I getting old? Or am I getting wise? Or do I not care anymore about the church? Those are the questions I struggled with over the past week, and I still don’t have an answer. Until I do, it will be difficult for me to think about or focus on much else. (I won’t even get into whether or not my time should be spent on my local church or blogging: both are ministry – to me – but which is the higher priority? I think I know the answer, but I just don’t like it.)

I will do the GO vs. TO post soon. I promise.


2 Cor 1:13

David (aka Jollyblogger) calls attention to a post by Kacy of Semper Reformanda entitled “10 Reasons Why I Am a Calvinist,” a tongue-in-check list meant to provide a little in-house TULIP humor. Now, I’m no TULIP but I always enjoy laughing at those who are; thus, I was immediately drawn to Kacy’s site.

David also encourages us to look at some of the responses that Kacy has gotten. I did and, while I was not surprised, I found myself being disappointed and frustrated by some of the responses to her post. (This is how I justify my anger, i.e., by labeling it “righteous indignation.”) Here’s her post (but go to her site to tell her you appreciate her and that you get the joke):

My friend Rebakha got this in an e-mail forward, so I did a google search for it inorder to share it with everyone here…

10 REASONS WHY I AM A CALVINIST

1. Calvinists tend to wear wool and cotton. Dispensationalists tend to wear lime-green polyester leisure suits.

2. John Calvin was French…being French is very chic.

3. Calvin sounds like Calvin Klein…and his clothes are very chic.

4. Calvinists can drink.

5. Calvinists can smoke.

6. Dispensationalists are into prophecy conferences where they talk about Star-Trek eschatology and the mark of the Beast. Calvinists have conferences on “life and culture”, art, social justice, and other high- brow things like that. Afterwards, we go to the local pub and talk about philosophy over a pint of Bass ale.

7. Calvinists have close ties with Scotland and Scotland is very cool: you know –Sean Connery, the movie Highlander, Bagpipes, the Loch Ness Monster, Glenlivet 18 year old Scotch, the movie Train Spotting, Braveheart, etc.

8. Calvinists think we are smarter than anybody else.

9. It is more socially acceptable to say, “I go to Grace Presbyterian Church” than to say, “I go to Washed In The Blood Worship Center”, “I go to Sonlife Charismatic Believers Assembly”, or to say “I go to Boston Berean Bible Believing Baptist Bethel”, or to say “I go to the Latter-Day- Rain Deliverance Tabernacle Prophecy Center, Inc.”, or to say “I go to the Philadelphia Church of the Majority Text”, or to say “I go to the Lithuanian Apostolic Orthodox Autocephalic Church of the Baltic union of 1838″.

10. Ultimately, I am a Calvinist because I had no choice in the matter.

Seems pretty harmless to me (BTW, as a dispensationalist, I must say that I do not own a lime-green polyester leisure suit – anymore). But here’s a distillation of a couple comments she garnered that is representative of the negative ones. (I’ve thrown in my own comments to the comment in brackets.)

I didn’t think the [post] was funny. This exalts man, exalts arrogance and pride, and it fails to glorify God.

I believe it’s blasphemous.

['Blasphemous.' Not bad taste or not funny, but blasphemous, as in equal to acting treacherously toward God (Ezek 20:27), speaking derogatorily against God's Name (Lev 24:16), or abusing the Holy Spirit (Mk 3:29).]

True Calvinism does not bring pride, but it brings humility.

[This is why I am a False Calvinist: I do not want to be as humble as this guy.]

Maybe I don’t have a sense of humor. I actually would like to think that I do have one, but for some reason this just isn’t funny, but repulsive. For instance, the comment made about “Calvinists think we are smarter than everyone else”…the pride here is outrageous. Do we see the pride?

[Actually, the more you write, the more we see it.]

Do we see the arrogance in this comment? The sad reality in this matter is that this isn’t the only comment in this [post] that promotes pride and exalts man.

As servants of our most humble Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, we must never be a people of pride, but always a people of humility. May we never ever forget this humility that Christ has shown us.

[He seems to be quite proud of his humility and lack of pride, reflected here and above: "True Calvinism does not bring pride, but it brings humility. " Apparently, he possesses true Calvinism and its attendant humility.]

If we are called to take every thought captive and submit unto God in order that we may glorify Christ as we ought, then I believe that this includes that which we entertain our minds with. Our sense of humor is something that should be sanctified, and although this may seem like an “alien” concept – [Why is 'alien' in quotations? Most of us probably recognize that it's not a reference to extraterrestrials.] – I believe that in all sincerety we should submit our sense of humor unto Christ so that it might be pleasing to Him. Not for our sake, but for God’s namesake, may we be a people who are careful about what we delight in . . . We’re Christians. Everything we do should be for the Glory of God. So I asked myself the question: Does this forward bring glory to God?

[I would love to see an example of his own humor, which he believes he has and which he feels glorifies God.]

When we laugh at a satirical email forward that promotes pride and exalts man we should not be led to laugh, but led to weep over what led the author of the forward to write what they wrote and how that as a whole it fails to bring honor to Jesus Christ.

["I thank you, God, that I am not like other men . . . "]

Happily, Kacy does not yield to these latter-day Pharisees. She posts a comment of her own but does not apologize for the original post. Good for her.

Like a topical preacher, however, I want to use this incident to speak about something only tangentially related: giving offense and taking offense. But that will have to wait until later today.


2 Cor 1:13

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Cool, eh? I could have been the first married, Protestant pope. And I probably would have worn a baseball cap – St. Louis Cardinals, of course – or an Indiana Jones kinda hat. And tennis shoes or Doc Martens.

I also would have driven myself around, but only after trading in the popemobile for a Bugati.

Bugatti EB 16.4 Veyron

I would have gone to all the great sporting events – which does not include the NBA finals or Wrestlemania. Bull riding would have been the official spectator sport of Catholicism – Bodacious the official mascot of Roman Catholicism – but golf would be a mandatory thing for all my faithful followers. Tiger Woods would be a cardinal, along with Albert Pujols and Mark McGwire. And Roger Federer.

I would have moved Vatican City to Tahiti or New Zealand just to get away from all the tourists in Rome and further away from France (I’m part French – no, not my tongue – so I can say that). VC would also have been wifi a long time ago.

The Lord of the Rings would be required reading in all services, and Gandalf would be the patron saint of everything. Aragorn would be my heir-apparent.

So, what about you? Not only what pope would you have been, but what would you have done? I mean, if I hadn’t been pope and you would have been. ‘Cause there can only be one pope at a time, after all.


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